styrum
02-08 11:55 AM
Who said the position must be in zone V only to qualify for EB2?
For the position to be qualified for EB2 it must require MS. For position requirements to be considered "normal", they must fit into the respective zone in terms of SVP level. As I learned from my bitter experience, though offficially for a PERM to be approved the requirements don't have to be "normal" (if they are not, you just need to supply the "business neccessity" letter), it looks like the current PERM's software just doesn't have such possibility "in mind" and automatically denies the application if the total education plus experience requirements exceed the SVP level for the zone corresponding to the position. You will get a denial notice which will blatantly claim something like "By answering YES to question H-12 you have attested that the requirements are normal, but the total SVP level exceeds the normal level for this position..." even if you have answered NO to that damn question! Therefore I don't recommend to exceed "normal" SVP level for the corresponding position code.
However, if a suitable code falls under zone IV, nobody (except for emplyer himself maybe) can prevent the employer to require, say, MS plus 2 yrs of experience. And it is within "normal" SVP level for zone IV, and it does qualify for EB2 (because it requires MS).
For the position to be qualified for EB2 it must require MS. For position requirements to be considered "normal", they must fit into the respective zone in terms of SVP level. As I learned from my bitter experience, though offficially for a PERM to be approved the requirements don't have to be "normal" (if they are not, you just need to supply the "business neccessity" letter), it looks like the current PERM's software just doesn't have such possibility "in mind" and automatically denies the application if the total education plus experience requirements exceed the SVP level for the zone corresponding to the position. You will get a denial notice which will blatantly claim something like "By answering YES to question H-12 you have attested that the requirements are normal, but the total SVP level exceeds the normal level for this position..." even if you have answered NO to that damn question! Therefore I don't recommend to exceed "normal" SVP level for the corresponding position code.
However, if a suitable code falls under zone IV, nobody (except for emplyer himself maybe) can prevent the employer to require, say, MS plus 2 yrs of experience. And it is within "normal" SVP level for zone IV, and it does qualify for EB2 (because it requires MS).
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smuggymba
01-01 07:38 PM
My dear Mr. smuggymba -
for your kind information, sorry for starting rats comparison here but I came to US about half a dozen years before you. my priority date is 2006 and EB3. also I recognize that there are ppl out there who came earlier than me too. Its very easy to preach 'Life is decided by choices we make', 'your luck/fate, success is decided by your own effort, talent', 'if you have it, ppl will notice it and you will succeed' etc. when you spend the most energetic, productive part of your life in a country, you would expect that country reward you with atleast opportunities to prove your mettle. not to say its immensely painful when ppl who came years and years after you get GC and grow leaps and bounds right in front of your eyes.
P.S. I am not questioning your qualifications or anything.
Just chill man. You're the one who was calling GC garbage can and then spending your most productive years on garbage can. Who spends his most productive years on garbage can? Obviously GC is something bigger for you.
Anyway, best of luck and have fun with familiy. Don't take too much stress...hopefully Obama will do something and everyone will have GC in 2-3 years. chill. Indians and Chinese have a disadvantage in this GC race and it affects all of us. A guy from Argentina already has GC and we applied at the same time. I also see these things around me but we can't do anything. We chose it.
for your kind information, sorry for starting rats comparison here but I came to US about half a dozen years before you. my priority date is 2006 and EB3. also I recognize that there are ppl out there who came earlier than me too. Its very easy to preach 'Life is decided by choices we make', 'your luck/fate, success is decided by your own effort, talent', 'if you have it, ppl will notice it and you will succeed' etc. when you spend the most energetic, productive part of your life in a country, you would expect that country reward you with atleast opportunities to prove your mettle. not to say its immensely painful when ppl who came years and years after you get GC and grow leaps and bounds right in front of your eyes.
P.S. I am not questioning your qualifications or anything.
Just chill man. You're the one who was calling GC garbage can and then spending your most productive years on garbage can. Who spends his most productive years on garbage can? Obviously GC is something bigger for you.
Anyway, best of luck and have fun with familiy. Don't take too much stress...hopefully Obama will do something and everyone will have GC in 2-3 years. chill. Indians and Chinese have a disadvantage in this GC race and it affects all of us. A guy from Argentina already has GC and we applied at the same time. I also see these things around me but we can't do anything. We chose it.
amitga
05-26 03:04 PM
There are better chances for this bill to pass, since this is tied with the family immigration. We should put full energy to get this bill passed and start a funding campaign ASAP for this bill.
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gc28262
06-12 12:00 PM
Interesting analysis.
However with country cap in place and if EB-ROW candidates are in plenty, India and China cannot advance even if visa numbers are available.
However with country cap in place and if EB-ROW candidates are in plenty, India and China cannot advance even if visa numbers are available.
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GC_ASP
10-25 08:08 AM
Vkkkk,
Look at this thread...He got the RFE on I-140(NSC) in august and the I-140 approved in sept. You never know with USCIS..I know few guys who got lucky with their I-140s. i don't think he was planning to play with our feelings since septemebr...Do you?
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12905
You signature shows like
Labor approved May 06
I-140 Applied Feb 8, 2007 (Approved Sep 18, 2007)
I-485 Applied Jun 29,2007...Received Receipt on July 31, 2007
Status - Pending
but how it is possible
I-140 Applied Feb 8, 2007 (Approved Sep 18, 2007).
currently 140 processing dates around Nov/dec-06.
Are you trying to play with people feelings?
Look at this thread...He got the RFE on I-140(NSC) in august and the I-140 approved in sept. You never know with USCIS..I know few guys who got lucky with their I-140s. i don't think he was planning to play with our feelings since septemebr...Do you?
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12905
You signature shows like
Labor approved May 06
I-140 Applied Feb 8, 2007 (Approved Sep 18, 2007)
I-485 Applied Jun 29,2007...Received Receipt on July 31, 2007
Status - Pending
but how it is possible
I-140 Applied Feb 8, 2007 (Approved Sep 18, 2007).
currently 140 processing dates around Nov/dec-06.
Are you trying to play with people feelings?
arnab221
10-05 10:12 AM
Looks like fruits of the rally are beginning to show up. All of a sudden the GOP is extending support for the immigration bill for the highly skilled . The below news articles reflect this news . Looks like the GOP and Dems have finally found common ground on this one .
http://www.mercurynews.com/politics/ci_7091661
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119154966904949270.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
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gimme_GC2006
10-07 01:35 PM
Nov 2008 bulletin....In My dreams...
EB2 India, move to Dec 2005 :D:D:D
EB2 India, move to Dec 2005 :D:D:D
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McLuvin
03-26 02:47 PM
this is the highlight thread of the month... every month... this is the exciting, nail biting, end of the stick excitement that keeps me on this site forever... really...
The best way to put it is...
This thread is like the last ball chetan Sharma bowled to javid Maindad, and india lost....
I mean we know that the dates are not going to move by miles... still we keep the lights on... :D
The best way to put it is...
This thread is like the last ball chetan Sharma bowled to javid Maindad, and india lost....
I mean we know that the dates are not going to move by miles... still we keep the lights on... :D
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bskrishna
05-21 12:57 PM
I can also see only April dates...
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vparam
09-20 02:02 AM
I wonder why the bulletine prediction has not started....it used to be fun...
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chanduv23
04-26 09:04 AM
Point based system!!!! Is this is joke???? Tell me this is not true and this is just a bad dream, please!!!!
Let�s see what a point based system has done to people..... Whom do we have here, a doctor, an engineer and one MBA. OK!!! Lets see what Point based system did to these guys -
Doctor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX6h-Ut-ZaE
Engineer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCkmtQ4um9w
MBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP9cQelrmc0
No offense to anybody from Canada. I am simply trying to illustrate the rationale about the GREATEST IDEA OF THE CENTURY, THE SILVER BULLET, THE FINAL FRONTIER TO ALL IMMIGRATION PROBLEMS - "point based system"!!!!! Oh really???
As such, Canada does not really have as many jobs as in US. Offcourse it is a fact that PhD and Doctors drive cabs in Canada because they can't find jobs, but someone who is not a US citizen finds a good job in USA because it is simply the land of opportunities.
I am not saying points system is the best, but opportunities play an important role and thats why US has so many jobs compared to other countries, though so many jobs are outsourced. There is always growing demand and the economy is huge and accomodative.
Canada on the other hand is still slow to add jobs it the pace America does because of the lack of infrastructure (As I have not been in Canada, I don't have much information on how things work, but I know for sure that getting jobs is very difficult)
We must have a seperate thread on merits and demerits of points based system over the existing system and the issues being faced in countries like Canada etc..
Let�s see what a point based system has done to people..... Whom do we have here, a doctor, an engineer and one MBA. OK!!! Lets see what Point based system did to these guys -
Doctor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX6h-Ut-ZaE
Engineer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCkmtQ4um9w
MBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP9cQelrmc0
No offense to anybody from Canada. I am simply trying to illustrate the rationale about the GREATEST IDEA OF THE CENTURY, THE SILVER BULLET, THE FINAL FRONTIER TO ALL IMMIGRATION PROBLEMS - "point based system"!!!!! Oh really???
As such, Canada does not really have as many jobs as in US. Offcourse it is a fact that PhD and Doctors drive cabs in Canada because they can't find jobs, but someone who is not a US citizen finds a good job in USA because it is simply the land of opportunities.
I am not saying points system is the best, but opportunities play an important role and thats why US has so many jobs compared to other countries, though so many jobs are outsourced. There is always growing demand and the economy is huge and accomodative.
Canada on the other hand is still slow to add jobs it the pace America does because of the lack of infrastructure (As I have not been in Canada, I don't have much information on how things work, but I know for sure that getting jobs is very difficult)
We must have a seperate thread on merits and demerits of points based system over the existing system and the issues being faced in countries like Canada etc..
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wellwishergc
04-03 11:53 AM
I agree with each and every word of your posting!!!
IV is doing a fabulous work. Hats off to the core team!!!;
I was active during efforts towards getting the immigration provisions into the S1932 bill and I can say that the efforts today are much more organized than those for S1932; I can imagine the scrambling and the mess that we would have been today, if not for IV.
Good luck, IV!!! Even if we do not succeed this time, we will have enough mileage to push our provisions within a separate bill in the near future. Keep up the good work.
I logged in this morning to get a regular update and came across this thread.
I am surprised to this discussion and the heated debate. Tides and Ebbs are a part of what we do. I think we must all be satisfied that we have IV to represent us. Think about it guys, we would have no voice if it were not for IV. I sincerely hope something comes out of all this efforts that all of us have put in. We have a good thing going here and lets not stop.
Even if nothing happens, I will be content that we have made efforts. Not just a tiny efforts but a big ones. Kudos to everyone who is contributing ideas and money. Keep the good work going and let us know what we have to do to help you all.
tidesandebbs
IV is doing a fabulous work. Hats off to the core team!!!;
I was active during efforts towards getting the immigration provisions into the S1932 bill and I can say that the efforts today are much more organized than those for S1932; I can imagine the scrambling and the mess that we would have been today, if not for IV.
Good luck, IV!!! Even if we do not succeed this time, we will have enough mileage to push our provisions within a separate bill in the near future. Keep up the good work.
I logged in this morning to get a regular update and came across this thread.
I am surprised to this discussion and the heated debate. Tides and Ebbs are a part of what we do. I think we must all be satisfied that we have IV to represent us. Think about it guys, we would have no voice if it were not for IV. I sincerely hope something comes out of all this efforts that all of us have put in. We have a good thing going here and lets not stop.
Even if nothing happens, I will be content that we have made efforts. Not just a tiny efforts but a big ones. Kudos to everyone who is contributing ideas and money. Keep the good work going and let us know what we have to do to help you all.
tidesandebbs
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Michael chertoff
07-31 09:19 AM
EB2 Indian will be Aug 2006.
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sri1309
08-21 07:47 AM
Guys,
I have once again sent 6 letters by mail to 6 members, but I would like to send to more by email. Can somebody please direct me to how to get those or if you have, please paste it here so that we can start sending emails also.
We must bump up our efforts as much as we can before the Oct bulletin comes out, but EB3 needs to do better. There is not much difference between the two categories when it comes to skill EB2 or EB3. As all of you know, the system is broken. There are Masters degree holders in both categories and experienced categores in both. Not long back we saw Eb3 doing better. This is not right guys,. Lets work together.
EB2 guys( those who do not want to support EB3)::
What will you do, in EB3 shoes, if the numbers are not moving in 2-3 months. You got it. MOst of them will change to EB2, right. I will too. I am sure you can imagine the scene then. I know 8 of my 15 friends have already jumped to EB2. And I am sure they have much higher priority date than most of EB2s there. So you know what to expect. Lets ALL support for the common cause.
Sri.
I have once again sent 6 letters by mail to 6 members, but I would like to send to more by email. Can somebody please direct me to how to get those or if you have, please paste it here so that we can start sending emails also.
We must bump up our efforts as much as we can before the Oct bulletin comes out, but EB3 needs to do better. There is not much difference between the two categories when it comes to skill EB2 or EB3. As all of you know, the system is broken. There are Masters degree holders in both categories and experienced categores in both. Not long back we saw Eb3 doing better. This is not right guys,. Lets work together.
EB2 guys( those who do not want to support EB3)::
What will you do, in EB3 shoes, if the numbers are not moving in 2-3 months. You got it. MOst of them will change to EB2, right. I will too. I am sure you can imagine the scene then. I know 8 of my 15 friends have already jumped to EB2. And I am sure they have much higher priority date than most of EB2s there. So you know what to expect. Lets ALL support for the common cause.
Sri.
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krishnam70
03-13 05:29 PM
let us start May 2009 predictions.
EB3-I 2003 October
Do you have any reason for just starting this thread? Anything you can do about the numbers moving by trying predict?
Instead please focus on the efforts by IV core and support it in anyway you can so that we send out an united message.
- cheers
kris
EB3-I 2003 October
Do you have any reason for just starting this thread? Anything you can do about the numbers moving by trying predict?
Instead please focus on the efforts by IV core and support it in anyway you can so that we send out an united message.
- cheers
kris
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knnmbd
05-12 08:08 AM
what is an Advance degree in STEM?
Master's or a PhD in a Science, Technology, Engineering or Math discipline.
Master's or a PhD in a Science, Technology, Engineering or Math discipline.
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kartikiran
01-21 06:28 PM
Arunmohan, this is exactly what I have been doing. Contacting local congressman and senator, but in vain. I agree with you that they respond, but it doesn't transfer to results. What I believe should be done, irrespective of EB2, EB3 etc are these following steps.
1) Local chapters prepare a letter to their local congressman and senators asking them to process gc backlogs in the order of labor filing date by USCIS. This is applicable to EB3 / EB2 / EB1 of any country. In respective categories GC with Pending I-485 applications should be processed by labor filing dates.
2) Conduct a month-long drive to make members visit a place nearby their residence to sign and fill their details along with the letter.
3) Send Original letter along with signatures to senator & copies to congressman/congresswoman.
4) Send copy of the same letter to the chapter nearest to washington d.c. and we should forward that copy to the president's office.
I know this sounds a lot. But this will be a co-ordinated effort & i am sure if we give members a month to sign, majority will be included and will be a co-ordinated effort from iv. but this is just my thought.
1) Local chapters prepare a letter to their local congressman and senators asking them to process gc backlogs in the order of labor filing date by USCIS. This is applicable to EB3 / EB2 / EB1 of any country. In respective categories GC with Pending I-485 applications should be processed by labor filing dates.
2) Conduct a month-long drive to make members visit a place nearby their residence to sign and fill their details along with the letter.
3) Send Original letter along with signatures to senator & copies to congressman/congresswoman.
4) Send copy of the same letter to the chapter nearest to washington d.c. and we should forward that copy to the president's office.
I know this sounds a lot. But this will be a co-ordinated effort & i am sure if we give members a month to sign, majority will be included and will be a co-ordinated effort from iv. but this is just my thought.
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ThinkTwice
09-21 01:37 PM
And why do you think the White House was in touch with Immigration voice leaders and not with some corporate lawyers during the July 2nd fiasco if they did not recognize the strength and commitment of the skilled immigrant community and btw what makes you say 'july 2nd will never happen again.' what are you? God?
I smell a closeted Anti Immigrant here.....
you need to remember that you are not a us citizen and you have no rights, you're previleged to have a job here...you can campaign till the cows come home and you aren't going to get squat.
july 2nd was a mistake that uscis had to rectify....there were a lot of companies who had spent the money in preparing I-485 applications and then uscis would have to face a class action lawsuit. july 2nd will never happen again.
I smell a closeted Anti Immigrant here.....
you need to remember that you are not a us citizen and you have no rights, you're previleged to have a job here...you can campaign till the cows come home and you aren't going to get squat.
july 2nd was a mistake that uscis had to rectify....there were a lot of companies who had spent the money in preparing I-485 applications and then uscis would have to face a class action lawsuit. july 2nd will never happen again.
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gunabcd
06-28 04:11 PM
my attorney said i need to wait for 140 receipt to file 485
is that true?
i need big help with my 140 filed in Premium Processing
and i did not get my receipt to file 485
applied it on Jun 20 2007 (this month)
any way i can get some copy of the receipt to file 485?
My lawyer said it takes upto 3 weeks to get the receipt (non-pp), yours is PP but so many have filed PP, so you should get I140 receipt this or next week. but in that case you get your $1000 back.
is that true?
i need big help with my 140 filed in Premium Processing
and i did not get my receipt to file 485
applied it on Jun 20 2007 (this month)
any way i can get some copy of the receipt to file 485?
My lawyer said it takes upto 3 weeks to get the receipt (non-pp), yours is PP but so many have filed PP, so you should get I140 receipt this or next week. but in that case you get your $1000 back.
santa123
10-15 04:36 PM
I am trying to submit my FOIA request to get copies of I140 and PERM.
I have not applied for my I485
Where and how do I get my A#?
I have not applied for my I485
Where and how do I get my A#?
dish
10-18 10:12 PM
Spouse working - Yes, in theory they could allow H4 to work. However would that be any job? If so then the H4 would actually be far better off than the H-1B who is restricted by job category and employer qualification
Long term - Yes, in theory, a 20 year H-1B takes some of the stress off. But what of Citizenship? If you stay 20 years you'd want to at least have the option of becoming a US citizen. At present I believe only a GC holder has the option to progress to citizenship.
Employer based - This is the key. Unless an H-1B is no longer employer sponsored but self-sposored then the H-1B holder is still living on a knife-edge and can be sent back home at any moment if their employer fires them or goes under and they cannot secure another similar job quickly enough.
So yes, they could make H-1B 20 years, allow spouse to work, allow application for citizenship and make it self-sponsored and not employer dependant. But why do that? They already have this kind of Visa. It's called a Green Card.
I disagree, GC has more .... Like doing business in here. and no need for getting visa stamps.
I would be happy if a visa like the TN-Visa made available to all not only to canadian and mexican nationals, though it doesn't have a Path to GC.
Long term - Yes, in theory, a 20 year H-1B takes some of the stress off. But what of Citizenship? If you stay 20 years you'd want to at least have the option of becoming a US citizen. At present I believe only a GC holder has the option to progress to citizenship.
Employer based - This is the key. Unless an H-1B is no longer employer sponsored but self-sposored then the H-1B holder is still living on a knife-edge and can be sent back home at any moment if their employer fires them or goes under and they cannot secure another similar job quickly enough.
So yes, they could make H-1B 20 years, allow spouse to work, allow application for citizenship and make it self-sponsored and not employer dependant. But why do that? They already have this kind of Visa. It's called a Green Card.
I disagree, GC has more .... Like doing business in here. and no need for getting visa stamps.
I would be happy if a visa like the TN-Visa made available to all not only to canadian and mexican nationals, though it doesn't have a Path to GC.