sikkinixx
Jun 15, 07:50 AM
Ugly. Looks like one of those $30 budget PC gamers cases.
On a side note, the "me too" generation rages on. Microsoft went glossy black, touch sensitive buttons and internal hard drive (albeit proprietary) basically copying Sorny's PS3 phat. Not to mention "Kinetic Sports" and "Kinectimals" riping shamelessly from Wii SPorts and Eye-Pet.
Next will be the "PS" from Sony. Rocking dual screens with the Spanish plumber Dario as the leading mascot.
On a side note, the "me too" generation rages on. Microsoft went glossy black, touch sensitive buttons and internal hard drive (albeit proprietary) basically copying Sorny's PS3 phat. Not to mention "Kinetic Sports" and "Kinectimals" riping shamelessly from Wii SPorts and Eye-Pet.
Next will be the "PS" from Sony. Rocking dual screens with the Spanish plumber Dario as the leading mascot.
thatisme
Mar 29, 12:37 PM
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/reviews/canon-ef-s-55-250mm-f-4-5.6-is-lens-review.aspx
go down to COMPARED ..
now roll over the images.. if you tell me that that 55-250 shot is a 1.6 crop and the 70-X shots are very different you DO live on another plant (the 55-250 shot was manualy zoomed to match the 70-X shot hence the SLIGHT difference in focal length).. I am assuming same camera..as the review is about the lens and the FoV is too close to be recreated beteen full frame and crop.
you are twisting things nicely around now..
@Cliff, my bad I remember seen the high speed crop also on the D3 series but I might be wrong. The D700 however does have a crop but also allows you to shoot your DX lens on full frame (which will vignette) but has no speed increase over the full frame mode.
Thatisme:
It is kind of funny how you try to wiggle yourself out of this though...
We (a buddy and me here, pro photographer but you would dismiss this anyway as him not knowing either, are having a great time with your "knowledge" and your way of going from the 200mm debacle to IMAGE... and no, the image will still not be different between an EF-s and an EF lens at the same focal length on the same body.
End of story..if you are so sure.. why don't YOU prove ME wrong? you posted 1 picture of a modified 5d, which wasnt even yours. there is no 10mm on full frame (hence the vigneting) so you would have to shoot that 52 with the 10-22 at 22mm and then use a full frame 22 milimeter lens and compare it, because you ARE arguing, at least now, that the image will be different. It won't except for the vignetting.. re-read your own statements from before and watch how you ended up now on the "image" :)
Don't worry, by Monday I will prove it to you but why don't you prove me wrong before?.. I dare you.
EF-s lens and EF (or DX and FX for me) at the same focal length on the same camera, same f stop, same shutter speed... Exif data intact.
To the OP: I have to apologize for this and this is the last post related to Thats me from my side:
To answer your question: EF-s is cheaper as stated before the mess and is targeted specifically for the crop sensor bodies. You CAN fit both EF-s and EF on a crop sensor body and you will get the same image. EF lenses are just made for full frame as also stated before.
sorry for the mess.
With your link provided, I agree there is a slight difference there, but as you said, you ASSUME that it was with the same camera.... That would be my assumption as well, however, that example hardly makes your case, as the 70mm had to be manually dialed in... a small change has a big effect at long distances.... just saying... Show it using a prime (can't) or at the long end of the lens where there is no room for error or adjustment (200mm example). Eliminate all variables.
So, quit your arguing and prove it with a real world example with your gear. I don't own any EF-S lenses anymore, so let's get that in the great wide open, so I can't run this comparison for you. There is a fundamental reason for that, which gets more to the point of the OP... Image quality is flat out crap as compared with Canon's L glass, which just so happens to be only in the EF mount. Right, wrong or somewhere in-between, this discussion has no bearing for me, since I will never own another EF-S lens anyway. To that point, I won't ever own a 1.6 crop camera again either, for what it's worth.
I have no further interest in this discussion, so have fun. Enjoy.
go down to COMPARED ..
now roll over the images.. if you tell me that that 55-250 shot is a 1.6 crop and the 70-X shots are very different you DO live on another plant (the 55-250 shot was manualy zoomed to match the 70-X shot hence the SLIGHT difference in focal length).. I am assuming same camera..as the review is about the lens and the FoV is too close to be recreated beteen full frame and crop.
you are twisting things nicely around now..
@Cliff, my bad I remember seen the high speed crop also on the D3 series but I might be wrong. The D700 however does have a crop but also allows you to shoot your DX lens on full frame (which will vignette) but has no speed increase over the full frame mode.
Thatisme:
It is kind of funny how you try to wiggle yourself out of this though...
We (a buddy and me here, pro photographer but you would dismiss this anyway as him not knowing either, are having a great time with your "knowledge" and your way of going from the 200mm debacle to IMAGE... and no, the image will still not be different between an EF-s and an EF lens at the same focal length on the same body.
End of story..if you are so sure.. why don't YOU prove ME wrong? you posted 1 picture of a modified 5d, which wasnt even yours. there is no 10mm on full frame (hence the vigneting) so you would have to shoot that 52 with the 10-22 at 22mm and then use a full frame 22 milimeter lens and compare it, because you ARE arguing, at least now, that the image will be different. It won't except for the vignetting.. re-read your own statements from before and watch how you ended up now on the "image" :)
Don't worry, by Monday I will prove it to you but why don't you prove me wrong before?.. I dare you.
EF-s lens and EF (or DX and FX for me) at the same focal length on the same camera, same f stop, same shutter speed... Exif data intact.
To the OP: I have to apologize for this and this is the last post related to Thats me from my side:
To answer your question: EF-s is cheaper as stated before the mess and is targeted specifically for the crop sensor bodies. You CAN fit both EF-s and EF on a crop sensor body and you will get the same image. EF lenses are just made for full frame as also stated before.
sorry for the mess.
With your link provided, I agree there is a slight difference there, but as you said, you ASSUME that it was with the same camera.... That would be my assumption as well, however, that example hardly makes your case, as the 70mm had to be manually dialed in... a small change has a big effect at long distances.... just saying... Show it using a prime (can't) or at the long end of the lens where there is no room for error or adjustment (200mm example). Eliminate all variables.
So, quit your arguing and prove it with a real world example with your gear. I don't own any EF-S lenses anymore, so let's get that in the great wide open, so I can't run this comparison for you. There is a fundamental reason for that, which gets more to the point of the OP... Image quality is flat out crap as compared with Canon's L glass, which just so happens to be only in the EF mount. Right, wrong or somewhere in-between, this discussion has no bearing for me, since I will never own another EF-S lens anyway. To that point, I won't ever own a 1.6 crop camera again either, for what it's worth.
I have no further interest in this discussion, so have fun. Enjoy.
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Liquorpuki
Apr 9, 02:32 PM
Other organizations do that stuff also. The majority of Planned Parenthood's business is abortions.
PS don't Planned Parenthood's origins
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgnRpSxs9_0xa315C14dwOalDko2X0cYX0ByGUv4K2Qz8kR4oxWtBcre9GG-X30ffNRyaQZ0nKW11FxIJfigAr8TS1PKKumMLk3qWqBXQh-PY6qyn0adXuvYqYBPDpOnOqXCafcd_JtDEqF/s400/sanger_kkk.jpg
First other organizations offer abortions as well. So I'm not sure what your logic is getting at.
Second PP was not started by the KKK.
Finally, I don't know if what Abby Johnson is saying is true but if abortions are truly going on at a magnitude that she suggests and PP is illegally funding them, I don't know why she's the only firsthand source.
I dont know how many of you guys actually have firsthand experience with PP and how many are just doing the keyboard jockey thing but I've been in 3 Planned Parenthood waiting rooms. Those places are always packed with women. It'll be raining and the place won't open for another hour and there will still be a line outside. From looking around, I have never seen any woman there with a late term pregnancy. What I did see were a lot of women - usually from high school to mid-20's, lower income, probably no health insurance. Since my high school days, PP has always been the primary resource for testing and/or contraception. Through their counseling, which is actually pretty effective, it's also one of the best resources to learn how to be sexually responsible.
PS don't Planned Parenthood's origins
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgnRpSxs9_0xa315C14dwOalDko2X0cYX0ByGUv4K2Qz8kR4oxWtBcre9GG-X30ffNRyaQZ0nKW11FxIJfigAr8TS1PKKumMLk3qWqBXQh-PY6qyn0adXuvYqYBPDpOnOqXCafcd_JtDEqF/s400/sanger_kkk.jpg
First other organizations offer abortions as well. So I'm not sure what your logic is getting at.
Second PP was not started by the KKK.
Finally, I don't know if what Abby Johnson is saying is true but if abortions are truly going on at a magnitude that she suggests and PP is illegally funding them, I don't know why she's the only firsthand source.
I dont know how many of you guys actually have firsthand experience with PP and how many are just doing the keyboard jockey thing but I've been in 3 Planned Parenthood waiting rooms. Those places are always packed with women. It'll be raining and the place won't open for another hour and there will still be a line outside. From looking around, I have never seen any woman there with a late term pregnancy. What I did see were a lot of women - usually from high school to mid-20's, lower income, probably no health insurance. Since my high school days, PP has always been the primary resource for testing and/or contraception. Through their counseling, which is actually pretty effective, it's also one of the best resources to learn how to be sexually responsible.
Cybix
Oct 26, 08:33 PM
how about some screen shots, any1?
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DiamondMac
Mar 29, 11:21 AM
I just called a store in my area. They have 32 and 64GB but they said they can overnight ship me one with 16GB capacity!
Then I realized I am still not sure whether I really need one!!! :confused:
Try it out. It is WORTH giving a chance.
Then I realized I am still not sure whether I really need one!!! :confused:
Try it out. It is WORTH giving a chance.
bruinsrme
Apr 5, 08:09 AM
yeah I can see his point.
However there will be efforts to make it like a pc through accessorizing the device
However there will be efforts to make it like a pc through accessorizing the device
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ender land
Apr 12, 01:01 PM
You mean Mestizos?
WASPs.
WASPs.
saving107
Oct 6, 10:42 AM
"There is no such thing as bad publicity."
The iPhone 4's antenna fiasco is totally bad publicity.
Just like Windows Vista, the general public already has an opinion of the product before they even try it and their for refuse to adopt to it.
The iPhone 4's antenna fiasco is totally bad publicity.
Just like Windows Vista, the general public already has an opinion of the product before they even try it and their for refuse to adopt to it.
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edesignuk
Sep 13, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by chmorley
p.s., Dell a "top tier" vendor?
Funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing :D
p.s., Dell a "top tier" vendor?
Funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing :D
fishmoose
Oct 6, 01:13 PM
Because now Android with a range of sizes is eating iPhone sales.
Go into a Best Buy and look at all the Androids with larger screens, and some with smaller screens and lower prices. Apple needs to compete with that...
:confused:
I'd stop to think about what you're saying before you speak. Maybe check the stats from anytime this year.
The iPhone does not have a majority of the share in the smartphone market.
As of Q1 RIM had a commanding lead over iPhone; http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/06/06/apples_iphone_market_share_three_times_greater_than_android_in_us.html
Other more recent reports show'd RIM slipping, but still higher than iOS. This one also show Nokia as having an even greater lead than both.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/apple-iphone-smartphone-market-share-surges-rim-slips/34181
And the MOST recent data (as of yesterday) has Android beating iOS; http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/10/05/android-passes-blackberry-and-iphone-among-recent-smartphone-purchases/
"Fail"? HA, Hardly. :rolleyes:
Well, Android is on a lot of handsets sure but is a wide majority of handsets selling or is it a few top of the line phones?
Also iPhone is still bigger than Android worldwide.
Go into a Best Buy and look at all the Androids with larger screens, and some with smaller screens and lower prices. Apple needs to compete with that...
:confused:
I'd stop to think about what you're saying before you speak. Maybe check the stats from anytime this year.
The iPhone does not have a majority of the share in the smartphone market.
As of Q1 RIM had a commanding lead over iPhone; http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/06/06/apples_iphone_market_share_three_times_greater_than_android_in_us.html
Other more recent reports show'd RIM slipping, but still higher than iOS. This one also show Nokia as having an even greater lead than both.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/apple-iphone-smartphone-market-share-surges-rim-slips/34181
And the MOST recent data (as of yesterday) has Android beating iOS; http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/10/05/android-passes-blackberry-and-iphone-among-recent-smartphone-purchases/
"Fail"? HA, Hardly. :rolleyes:
Well, Android is on a lot of handsets sure but is a wide majority of handsets selling or is it a few top of the line phones?
Also iPhone is still bigger than Android worldwide.
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slffl
Apr 5, 09:48 AM
The xoom tied the iPad? That's a joke! And I say this because yes I have used a xoom. It was a pile of turd.
dvdhsu
Apr 16, 03:42 PM
Steve looks more and more like the guy on the screen every day!
I know!
Totally! :D
I know!
Totally! :D
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Number 41
Apr 21, 02:16 PM
I agree with you. New CPU, memory, cameras, etc are enough of a bump. You don't need it completely redesigned it's only been a freaking year.
When the current form-factor is fundamentally flawed:
1. Fragile build materials (glass that shatters)
2. Antenna reception issues (documented)
I don't think it's out of the ordinary to expect Apple to review and update the design of the phone. The iPhone 4 was their biggest design failure since the Mac Cube -- I can't believe they'll sit on it for another year.
Oh wait, Apple never admits they effed up. They'll keep this form factor for a decade just to prove a point.
When the current form-factor is fundamentally flawed:
1. Fragile build materials (glass that shatters)
2. Antenna reception issues (documented)
I don't think it's out of the ordinary to expect Apple to review and update the design of the phone. The iPhone 4 was their biggest design failure since the Mac Cube -- I can't believe they'll sit on it for another year.
Oh wait, Apple never admits they effed up. They'll keep this form factor for a decade just to prove a point.
Some_Big_Spoon
Sep 26, 01:36 AM
I say they sue Leonard Nimoy and the entire cast of the remake of the Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
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Zaid
Sep 13, 09:01 AM
Unless they keep me overnight, I'm having the midshipman I sponsor from the Naval Academy pick me up and get me settled at home. I'm sure I'll be just fine - I'm just a worrier. :rolleyes:
Lucky you! :)
Wish i'd had a sailor pick me up and put me to bed when i was having surgery :D As i was a horny teenager at the time this would have been a dream come true waking up to a sexy sailor. Actually given those hospital gowns that may not have been such a good idea :D
Also, agreed with jsw. Take the fasting restrictions very seriously
Lucky you! :)
Wish i'd had a sailor pick me up and put me to bed when i was having surgery :D As i was a horny teenager at the time this would have been a dream come true waking up to a sexy sailor. Actually given those hospital gowns that may not have been such a good idea :D
Also, agreed with jsw. Take the fasting restrictions very seriously
ConanTX
Nov 9, 10:04 PM
If a store's inventory uses RFID, then a retail associate could quickly locate merchandise if their iPhone was able to detect RFID signals. Walking up to a wall of jeans and being able to instantly find the size and style you need in a mess left after a big sale would be a great time saver. The employee could also take inventory just by walking through the department.
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digitalfrog
Mar 24, 07:01 AM
My goal when my daytime job was IT and photography a hobby was to get the sharpest pics as possible, not blown highlights and details in the shadows ...
My goal today with photography as my daytime job is to deliver the pictures my clients want, which mostly involve styling with lot's of blur, overexposed and grainy pictures, layering textures over and so on ...
My goal today with photography as my daytime job is to deliver the pictures my clients want, which mostly involve styling with lot's of blur, overexposed and grainy pictures, layering textures over and so on ...
Laslo Panaflex
Sep 19, 04:18 PM
Do you mean "whilst" the update is happening the fans run at full speed, or after the update applys your fans are stupidly loud? :confused:
With a pending order of the mac pro, the last thing I wanna go through is powermac G5 fan hell again......
Yes, please elaborate on what you mean, I don't want to update if it's going have my fans running full speed at all times.
With a pending order of the mac pro, the last thing I wanna go through is powermac G5 fan hell again......
Yes, please elaborate on what you mean, I don't want to update if it's going have my fans running full speed at all times.
Knowimagination
Mar 11, 06:47 PM
wow those went fast. I was in the first group at knox street and I made it in and out pretty quickly. Setting it up now!
bizzle
Apr 11, 06:14 PM
I paid $3.50 today 87 in NJ. I fill up every three days for work. I get around 27-28 mpg in my 05 Civic Si.
majorp
Sep 1, 04:09 AM
Update away. Those of you running illegal copies of the WWDC (torrent) will be happy to know that your IP and other system/contact info is automatically logged and forwarded to Apple Legal by the Leopard Software Update. :eek:
"Enjoyed the preview? Good. We'll be contacting you soon..."
yeah, it would only cost them $1000+ to have someone come round to my house and do something about it, well worth the �59 they would sell the end product for :rolleyes:
do they check everybodys IP, how do they know i wasn't at wwdc.
"Enjoyed the preview? Good. We'll be contacting you soon..."
yeah, it would only cost them $1000+ to have someone come round to my house and do something about it, well worth the �59 they would sell the end product for :rolleyes:
do they check everybodys IP, how do they know i wasn't at wwdc.
iJohnHenry
Apr 8, 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Xeperu View Post
"Humans should have the full right to decide over their own bodies, that includes planned parenthood and abortions."
Apparently HIS statement only means some humans.....
OK, time to lead your Squad over to the PC forums.
You will have no luck here, with your selective definition of 'Human'.
"Humans should have the full right to decide over their own bodies, that includes planned parenthood and abortions."
Apparently HIS statement only means some humans.....
OK, time to lead your Squad over to the PC forums.
You will have no luck here, with your selective definition of 'Human'.
Benjamins
May 2, 01:50 PM
lol only people who buy Apple products are OCD enough to notice things like this.
Amazing Iceman
Nov 18, 07:48 AM
I think this kid is great, I hope he puts up the good fight!
Even if he wins, all his profit will be absorbed by his lawyer. :(
All that hard work for nothing. :mad:
Even if he wins, all his profit will be absorbed by his lawyer. :(
All that hard work for nothing. :mad: