senthil
11-03 06:15 PM
1) I would go with travelers cheq's like "srinithati" mentioned. That way it wont be a problem asking someone to bring along with them when travelling from India to USA
2) If you still have any money on your NRI account , check to see if its re-patriatable type. If you what-ever money you have on you URI account ( except the minimum balance you might need to keep you can convert back to dollars.
3) May eb we should think about Hawala ( India -> USA ) due to these conversion rates
2) If you still have any money on your NRI account , check to see if its re-patriatable type. If you what-ever money you have on you URI account ( except the minimum balance you might need to keep you can convert back to dollars.
3) May eb we should think about Hawala ( India -> USA ) due to these conversion rates
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chaukas
08-23 02:13 PM
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kumjay
06-24 11:20 PM
There is one more option for you. H1 and L1 employees can go on long paid/unpaid leaves. If her company can support with document that she was on an unpaid leave for any reason (I do not know the reasons...make something) then there are chances that she will be able to change her status back to H4. All you have to prove that there was a good faith employee employer relationship for that particular duration. Talk to a lawyer, explain the situation..........every passing day is making your situation worse. Good Luck.
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chanduv23
10-03 11:50 AM
I will be in NY that Friday for a meeting. I am not sure if my flights are booked for Friday evening or Saturday. If I can I will definitely make it!:)
Wonderful - if you can make it - we will see u here :)
Wonderful - if you can make it - we will see u here :)
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sunny1000
10-05 01:55 PM
no that makes no sense. There is absolutely no need to mention illegals in that paragraph where they are talking about high-skilled immigrants. There is no one (well except Bernie Sanders and Tom Tancredo) who is against high-skilled immigrants. Hard to find a line against our cause, so they lump in a line about illegals? Thats plain stupid.
I got your point and that of logiclife's and I agree....there is no need for them to mention the illegals (a cheap attempt on the part of WSJ). I was merely pointing out that WSJ technically does not say that we (high tech workers) are illegal.
I got your point and that of logiclife's and I agree....there is no need for them to mention the illegals (a cheap attempt on the part of WSJ). I was merely pointing out that WSJ technically does not say that we (high tech workers) are illegal.
aadimanav
07-18 10:09 AM
Aadimanav or anyone,
I am planning to send a letter to President, First Lady, DOS chief besides other Govt. rep. Anyone has the addresses?
I am in CP and I am writing to them to allow CP filers who are already working here in the US to file for AOS (even if the PD is not current) anticipating a very long delay for EB3 I. That way we could get atleast the minimal benefits like EAD, AP.
If any CP filers from EB3 I wanna join me, more than welcome!
You may want to start a new thread regarding this letter. :)
I am planning to send a letter to President, First Lady, DOS chief besides other Govt. rep. Anyone has the addresses?
I am in CP and I am writing to them to allow CP filers who are already working here in the US to file for AOS (even if the PD is not current) anticipating a very long delay for EB3 I. That way we could get atleast the minimal benefits like EAD, AP.
If any CP filers from EB3 I wanna join me, more than welcome!
You may want to start a new thread regarding this letter. :)
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gc_on_demand
06-12 12:23 PM
Outlook is very very grim without a bill from what I understand. EB3 India is going to be in a hole and EB3 PDs that are 2006 and later have a really long wait time ahead that they are not imagining. We are all hopeful by nature and look forward to visa bulletins with a positive attitude but such PD folks may be disappointed month after month for several years. For EB2 India it is important to know number of ported cases. EB3ROW folks also need to worry now. Their journey may not be that smooth due to spillover rules and high demand. We need to get data via FOIA to make a better guesstimate. Without such data we will hear various theories, predictions and interpretations from various websites and blogs that may not be always true.
As I remember our FOIA can take as long as 2 years to get processes. Now that they have preadjusted almost all cases ( Means they have all required information on hand for all pending EB based AOS , can IV push USCIS to work on our FOIA ? ) FOIA result can help us lot to convince lawmakers when CIR time will in sep - oct.
As I remember our FOIA can take as long as 2 years to get processes. Now that they have preadjusted almost all cases ( Means they have all required information on hand for all pending EB based AOS , can IV push USCIS to work on our FOIA ? ) FOIA result can help us lot to convince lawmakers when CIR time will in sep - oct.
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rameshvaid
03-15 09:57 PM
Thank you for all quick replies.
It's been about an year the case has been closed. I can't expunge it for 4 more years. The attorney said it may not be under CMT. I think even though we expunge it, in future where ever we go, if asked that ever got arrested, we need to say YES right?
My attorney says it should be OK.. I am not sure what to be done as you said it all depends on the VO
I am praying god for the silly thing have done and help me in this..
Never repeat a mistake again...
Guys, please help me if any one knew any info...
Thank you very very much!!!
In Ohio expungement can be done after 12 months and I neither know which state you are in nor I know the rules of any other state. The best bet is talk to a good criminal attorney. You are stuck with this case for quite some time and u need to talk to a good attorney.
Good Luck..
RV
It's been about an year the case has been closed. I can't expunge it for 4 more years. The attorney said it may not be under CMT. I think even though we expunge it, in future where ever we go, if asked that ever got arrested, we need to say YES right?
My attorney says it should be OK.. I am not sure what to be done as you said it all depends on the VO
I am praying god for the silly thing have done and help me in this..
Never repeat a mistake again...
Guys, please help me if any one knew any info...
Thank you very very much!!!
In Ohio expungement can be done after 12 months and I neither know which state you are in nor I know the rules of any other state. The best bet is talk to a good criminal attorney. You are stuck with this case for quite some time and u need to talk to a good attorney.
Good Luck..
RV
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senthil1
05-24 03:38 PM
Also we cannot deny that Corporations also reason for putting the h1b restrictions. Why Indian consulting companies applying thousands of H1b in one day? I doubt usage of number h1bs are atleast 50% They were also wasting lot of h1bs just by applying and staying in India waiting for Job opportunity materialise but here many companies could not get persons for many projects. Some solution is needed for this issue for proper utilization of H1bs. Corporations could have suggested some solution for this if they are really responsible.
According to lot of estimates 100k new jobs are created and if we include retiring people and rotating people real new requirement will be 150k persons including H1b and L1. H1b numbers(115-180K) in the Senate bill are fine according to Industry estimates if industry is just using for new jobs and vacancies of old jobs without replacing current workers. It is too much restrictive in the bill but someone has to suggest alternative solution for the current problems. If they just remove the restrictions when they open new H1b cap will be reached within few days again corporations lobby for more H1bs.
I'm surprised that everybody in this thread got so scared of the language in a stupid bill and stopped thinking how clever Indians are in finding loopholes. I hate when all the extra-ordinary people think in the same direction. To start with, is it possible that these jokers will pass anything agaist the will of big techs like microsoft, intel, csco, think again? even if they did to make average(stupid) Joe happy, they wil keep loopholes making the law irrelevent. e.g. H1 quota limited but L1 unlimited. businesses more than 50 emps can not have more than 50% H1Bs, what do u think big desi consulting cos are in trouble? they will simply 10 more companies each having 49 people.
Other direction: when i came to US in '99 from SEEPZ, my US salary(in Rupees) was 12 times my indian salary, now it's just 2 times. Indian salaries are increasing 10-20% every year, and Dollar is going down (down 20% in 6 years, 40% including indian inflation), very soon there will be no advantage in coming over here, and you are worrying about future H1s having trouble getting GC?
No matter how stupid and selfish politician look/sound they always think about their contries future, and folks these are US politicians. take it easy and take a walk outside, it's nice out there.
According to lot of estimates 100k new jobs are created and if we include retiring people and rotating people real new requirement will be 150k persons including H1b and L1. H1b numbers(115-180K) in the Senate bill are fine according to Industry estimates if industry is just using for new jobs and vacancies of old jobs without replacing current workers. It is too much restrictive in the bill but someone has to suggest alternative solution for the current problems. If they just remove the restrictions when they open new H1b cap will be reached within few days again corporations lobby for more H1bs.
I'm surprised that everybody in this thread got so scared of the language in a stupid bill and stopped thinking how clever Indians are in finding loopholes. I hate when all the extra-ordinary people think in the same direction. To start with, is it possible that these jokers will pass anything agaist the will of big techs like microsoft, intel, csco, think again? even if they did to make average(stupid) Joe happy, they wil keep loopholes making the law irrelevent. e.g. H1 quota limited but L1 unlimited. businesses more than 50 emps can not have more than 50% H1Bs, what do u think big desi consulting cos are in trouble? they will simply 10 more companies each having 49 people.
Other direction: when i came to US in '99 from SEEPZ, my US salary(in Rupees) was 12 times my indian salary, now it's just 2 times. Indian salaries are increasing 10-20% every year, and Dollar is going down (down 20% in 6 years, 40% including indian inflation), very soon there will be no advantage in coming over here, and you are worrying about future H1s having trouble getting GC?
No matter how stupid and selfish politician look/sound they always think about their contries future, and folks these are US politicians. take it easy and take a walk outside, it's nice out there.
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04-12 10:27 PM
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aadimanav
08-22 02:27 PM
Yes I have receipt the Receipt. Reached the 485 on July 2, 07. Finger Printing notice already receipt.. due in first week Sep. You can check online status here:
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis
What is ur priority date
....The online status says 485 received and pending." means?
Did you apply 485 in August 07 and already your status is showing pending? Did you receive a receipt notice?
Please enlighten ?
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis
What is ur priority date
....The online status says 485 received and pending." means?
Did you apply 485 in August 07 and already your status is showing pending? Did you receive a receipt notice?
Please enlighten ?
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natrajs
08-25 01:11 PM
And they say why Albert Pinto "Plassey" is an angry man?
My current H1 is expiring soon. My 3 year H1 extension is pending. I had receipt notice but NJ DMV at Wayne refused to accept that. My current License is valid only till the middle of the next month.
Any body in the same boat? What shall I do?
My friend was in a similar situation last yr, He took his all his documents to Trenton DMV and they have given him 90 days extension.
Try that, Good Luck
Other Option is convert your H1 Extension to premium and get the approval before your H1 expiration date
My current H1 is expiring soon. My 3 year H1 extension is pending. I had receipt notice but NJ DMV at Wayne refused to accept that. My current License is valid only till the middle of the next month.
Any body in the same boat? What shall I do?
My friend was in a similar situation last yr, He took his all his documents to Trenton DMV and they have given him 90 days extension.
Try that, Good Luck
Other Option is convert your H1 Extension to premium and get the approval before your H1 expiration date
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vikki76
04-08 02:01 PM
Gandhi was in S Africa for how many years before he returned to India? If he hadn't been humiliated in S Africa and didn't decide to perform Satyagraha-who knows what shape our freedom movement might have taken?S Africa made Mohandas a "Gandhi"
Maybe, we all need to go to our home countries-and free them from "beloved politicians":-)
Maybe, we all need to go to our home countries-and free them from "beloved politicians":-)
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nrk
08-11 11:18 AM
Service Request you will call the number on your receipt .
Info pass --> follow this link
InfoPass.. (http://infopass.uscis.gov/index.php)
1. Choose english as the language
2. click Make your appointment with Infopass button
3. enter your zip code and country
4. Please select Kind of Service you need
5. if you select a service on the application already filed from step 4
the following options will be there.
Order from Immigration Court - If you were directed to us for processing based on an order from the Immigration Judge. You must bring all documents required in the post order instructions given to you by the court.
Case Processing Appointment - If you received a notice to go to your local office for further case processing.
EAD inquiry appointment - If your I-765 employment authorization application has been pending for more than 90 days.
Case Services follow-up appointment - If it has been over 45 days since you contacted NCSC and have not received a response to your inquiry. You must bring the Service Request ID Number related to your inquiry to the appointment.
Select one of the options.
6. Enter your name and personal details and click next it will give the appoint times available to you, choose a time and take the necessary documentation (485 receipts etc) to
the appointment office in person.
7. there you will get a chance to talk to one of the officer in person. they will try to clear your questions as they can.
There might be good documentation about the steps in ImmigrationVoice website, search for that.
Thanks NRK is that number same on our receipt? I am sorry but can you tell me how to get a live person...
Info pass --> follow this link
InfoPass.. (http://infopass.uscis.gov/index.php)
1. Choose english as the language
2. click Make your appointment with Infopass button
3. enter your zip code and country
4. Please select Kind of Service you need
5. if you select a service on the application already filed from step 4
the following options will be there.
Order from Immigration Court - If you were directed to us for processing based on an order from the Immigration Judge. You must bring all documents required in the post order instructions given to you by the court.
Case Processing Appointment - If you received a notice to go to your local office for further case processing.
EAD inquiry appointment - If your I-765 employment authorization application has been pending for more than 90 days.
Case Services follow-up appointment - If it has been over 45 days since you contacted NCSC and have not received a response to your inquiry. You must bring the Service Request ID Number related to your inquiry to the appointment.
Select one of the options.
6. Enter your name and personal details and click next it will give the appoint times available to you, choose a time and take the necessary documentation (485 receipts etc) to
the appointment office in person.
7. there you will get a chance to talk to one of the officer in person. they will try to clear your questions as they can.
There might be good documentation about the steps in ImmigrationVoice website, search for that.
Thanks NRK is that number same on our receipt? I am sorry but can you tell me how to get a live person...
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12-15 09:43 AM
Denied licenses, legal immigrants sue state Registry
Say status wrongly contested
By Yvonne Abraham, Globe Staff | December 15, 2006
Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles employees are routinely and unlawfully denying driver's licenses to immigrants who are here legally, according to a class-action law suit filed yesterday.
According to the suit, Registry workers asked the immigrants for proof of legal residency when they were not authorized to do so. The workers then denied licenses to the applicants, incorrectly concluding that the immigrants had not demonstrated they were in the United States legally, the suit alleges.
In all cases, the immigrants' lawyers said, the Registry workers were overstepping their legal authority and violating the immigrants' constitutional rights.
"They don't have the authority to enforce federal immigration law," said Sarah Wunsch, staff attorney for the ACLU of Massachusetts, who is representing the seven immigrants who brought the suit. "But they've taken it upon themselves to do it, and they're doing it wrong. It's not an isolated case here and there. This appears to be policy."
Wunsch said hundreds of other immigrants have similarly been denied licenses.
A spokeswoman for the Registry of Motor Vehicles declined to comment, saying Registry lawyers had not yet had a chance to review the lawsuit.
Under state policy, applicants for a driver's license must present proof of their identity by providing a valid Social Security number, which the Registry checks against a Social Security Administration database.
In order to obtain a valid Social Security number, an immigrant must be in the country legally. Applicants must also show proof of their age and address.
All of the plaintiffs presented valid Social Security numbers when they applied for licenses, Wunsch said. Even so, Registry workers rejected their applications.
In some of the cases, applicants were not given any reason why they were rejected. In the others, Registry employees improperly sought additional proof of the applicants' immigration status and then said the documents were not adequate.
Registry spokeswoman Amy Breton, speaking generally, said Registry employees do not enforce immigration laws.
But she added: "Certainly, we've had to become more familiar with immigration documents. We want to make sure we are issuing licenses to Massachusetts residents, because that is what the law calls for."
She said the Registry has been responsive to complaints that immigrants have been treated unfairly. On Wednesday night, the head of the agency, Registrar Anne L. Collins, met with about 300 immigrants and their advocates in Hyannis to hear their concerns about the license application process, she said.
In many cases, Breton said, immigrants who feel they have been unfairly denied a license can file an appeal, which costs $50.
Lawyers for the seven plaintiffs say their clients should not have to spend money to challenge what is clearly a discriminatory practice.
"The Registry seems to be asking immigrants to produce justification for their presence in the United States," said lead attorney Kenneth Berman of Nutter McClennen & Fish.
The lawyers said that the problems demonstrate the danger of having state employees who are not trained in immigration law taking on enforcement of that law.
Two immigrant advocacy groups are also plaintiffs in the suit, alleging that the Registry's discrimination against immigrants forces them to divert time and resources from other activities.
"This is extremely common," said Desmond FitzGerald, an immigration lawyer who represents four immigrants who were denied licenses in a separate case to be heard early next year. "We want the Registry to regulate the safety of our roads, not enforce immigration rules."
One of FitzGerald's clients, the wife of a prominent Spanish scientist who is in the United States on a visa reserved for persons of exceptional ability, was denied a license because Registry workers who asked for proof of her legal residency did not recognize her visa. After she sued the Registry, the agency settled the case, granting her a license.
One of the plaintiffs in the class action suit filed yesterday is an immigrant from Zimbabwe who has a pending application for asylum. The woman, a nurse, has work authorization and had already been granted a driver's license.
When she tried to renew that license this week, she produced her old license, her Social Security number, and proof of her car insurance coverage, which showed her address. Still, she was asked for her passport.
The woman, who fled political persecution in Zimbabwe, does not have a current, government-issued passport from that country. She showed the Registry employee a document showing that the US government had granted her permission to remain here. Her application was still denied, as was her daughter's application for a learner's permit.
"Given how dependent we all are on the right to drive an automobile, the denial of a license is causing real hardship to the people I represent," Berman said.
The issue of driver's licenses for immigrants has become highly charged over the past year, as the national debate on immigration has grown more fractious.
The question of issuing driver's licenses to illegal immigrants was a matter of fierce dispute during this year's gubernatorial race, in which Governor-elect Deval Patrick said he would consider giving licenses to those who are here illegally. He was pilloried for that suggestion by his opponent, Lieutenant Governor Kerry Healey, who with Governor Mitt Romney has taken an aggressive stance against illegal immigration.
Immigrants' advocates said they worry that the Republican administration's zeal is causing Registry employees to punish immigrants who had followed all the rules.
Say status wrongly contested
By Yvonne Abraham, Globe Staff | December 15, 2006
Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles employees are routinely and unlawfully denying driver's licenses to immigrants who are here legally, according to a class-action law suit filed yesterday.
According to the suit, Registry workers asked the immigrants for proof of legal residency when they were not authorized to do so. The workers then denied licenses to the applicants, incorrectly concluding that the immigrants had not demonstrated they were in the United States legally, the suit alleges.
In all cases, the immigrants' lawyers said, the Registry workers were overstepping their legal authority and violating the immigrants' constitutional rights.
"They don't have the authority to enforce federal immigration law," said Sarah Wunsch, staff attorney for the ACLU of Massachusetts, who is representing the seven immigrants who brought the suit. "But they've taken it upon themselves to do it, and they're doing it wrong. It's not an isolated case here and there. This appears to be policy."
Wunsch said hundreds of other immigrants have similarly been denied licenses.
A spokeswoman for the Registry of Motor Vehicles declined to comment, saying Registry lawyers had not yet had a chance to review the lawsuit.
Under state policy, applicants for a driver's license must present proof of their identity by providing a valid Social Security number, which the Registry checks against a Social Security Administration database.
In order to obtain a valid Social Security number, an immigrant must be in the country legally. Applicants must also show proof of their age and address.
All of the plaintiffs presented valid Social Security numbers when they applied for licenses, Wunsch said. Even so, Registry workers rejected their applications.
In some of the cases, applicants were not given any reason why they were rejected. In the others, Registry employees improperly sought additional proof of the applicants' immigration status and then said the documents were not adequate.
Registry spokeswoman Amy Breton, speaking generally, said Registry employees do not enforce immigration laws.
But she added: "Certainly, we've had to become more familiar with immigration documents. We want to make sure we are issuing licenses to Massachusetts residents, because that is what the law calls for."
She said the Registry has been responsive to complaints that immigrants have been treated unfairly. On Wednesday night, the head of the agency, Registrar Anne L. Collins, met with about 300 immigrants and their advocates in Hyannis to hear their concerns about the license application process, she said.
In many cases, Breton said, immigrants who feel they have been unfairly denied a license can file an appeal, which costs $50.
Lawyers for the seven plaintiffs say their clients should not have to spend money to challenge what is clearly a discriminatory practice.
"The Registry seems to be asking immigrants to produce justification for their presence in the United States," said lead attorney Kenneth Berman of Nutter McClennen & Fish.
The lawyers said that the problems demonstrate the danger of having state employees who are not trained in immigration law taking on enforcement of that law.
Two immigrant advocacy groups are also plaintiffs in the suit, alleging that the Registry's discrimination against immigrants forces them to divert time and resources from other activities.
"This is extremely common," said Desmond FitzGerald, an immigration lawyer who represents four immigrants who were denied licenses in a separate case to be heard early next year. "We want the Registry to regulate the safety of our roads, not enforce immigration rules."
One of FitzGerald's clients, the wife of a prominent Spanish scientist who is in the United States on a visa reserved for persons of exceptional ability, was denied a license because Registry workers who asked for proof of her legal residency did not recognize her visa. After she sued the Registry, the agency settled the case, granting her a license.
One of the plaintiffs in the class action suit filed yesterday is an immigrant from Zimbabwe who has a pending application for asylum. The woman, a nurse, has work authorization and had already been granted a driver's license.
When she tried to renew that license this week, she produced her old license, her Social Security number, and proof of her car insurance coverage, which showed her address. Still, she was asked for her passport.
The woman, who fled political persecution in Zimbabwe, does not have a current, government-issued passport from that country. She showed the Registry employee a document showing that the US government had granted her permission to remain here. Her application was still denied, as was her daughter's application for a learner's permit.
"Given how dependent we all are on the right to drive an automobile, the denial of a license is causing real hardship to the people I represent," Berman said.
The issue of driver's licenses for immigrants has become highly charged over the past year, as the national debate on immigration has grown more fractious.
The question of issuing driver's licenses to illegal immigrants was a matter of fierce dispute during this year's gubernatorial race, in which Governor-elect Deval Patrick said he would consider giving licenses to those who are here illegally. He was pilloried for that suggestion by his opponent, Lieutenant Governor Kerry Healey, who with Governor Mitt Romney has taken an aggressive stance against illegal immigration.
Immigrants' advocates said they worry that the Republican administration's zeal is causing Registry employees to punish immigrants who had followed all the rules.
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tiinap
09-25 06:54 PM
I support this idea of a Silicon Valley rally. I also think that for our next rally we first need need some new concept or central idea that will make us heard loud and clear and get even more national attention. I guess we all agree that the next rally shouldn't be simply a repeat of DC in a different location, but in some way take things to the next level.
Our ranks are much smaller than the 12 million illegal immigrants, so we cannot get noticed based on sheer numbers alone. To get attention we need original & effective ideas. Like the flower campaign.
One idea that we could use in our next rally is to ask each participant to come with a sign that reads "Waiting since (year)" where the date is when you first came to the US as a student or H1 or J1. In my case that's 1999 and I'm not even able to get in line for a green card.
Our ranks are much smaller than the 12 million illegal immigrants, so we cannot get noticed based on sheer numbers alone. To get attention we need original & effective ideas. Like the flower campaign.
One idea that we could use in our next rally is to ask each participant to come with a sign that reads "Waiting since (year)" where the date is when you first came to the US as a student or H1 or J1. In my case that's 1999 and I'm not even able to get in line for a green card.
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funny
09-22 01:44 PM
Sorry folks for creating one more thread...But i think its time to get energized again and start afresh( some people might not be looking into the IV call campaign...becuase of too much depression..resulting from the HORSE discussion last week in the senate..)
People..start burning those phone lines again...
Schedule on 23rd September - Tomorrow
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html
People..start burning those phone lines again...
Schedule on 23rd September - Tomorrow
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html
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franklin
08-12 02:25 AM
My request for help on the following post http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12255 is not going well, I am still waiting to hear from analytical minds.
Anyways, we are in process of creating an eye opener fact sheet that we will be distributed with the promotional fliers. The objective of the fact sheet is create a sense of urgency and draw people's interest to DC rally.
I am looking for ideas as to what to put in the fact sheet, while I am still waiting to hear on my other post.
Please contribute you thoughts. We need to get this completed in couple of days.
Will send info asap when I'm done with a few other action items. I do encourage further breakdown based on area of chargability, but this is a great idea.
Please contribute folks!
Anyways, we are in process of creating an eye opener fact sheet that we will be distributed with the promotional fliers. The objective of the fact sheet is create a sense of urgency and draw people's interest to DC rally.
I am looking for ideas as to what to put in the fact sheet, while I am still waiting to hear on my other post.
Please contribute you thoughts. We need to get this completed in couple of days.
Will send info asap when I'm done with a few other action items. I do encourage further breakdown based on area of chargability, but this is a great idea.
Please contribute folks!
gc_dedo
10-05 11:19 AM
Who is GOP?
prince_waiting
10-12 03:13 PM
Emails dispatched. Got acknowledgement.